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		<title>By: Simon Edhouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Edhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could write a pretty good article about tagging, but I am a little busy at the moment. ~ The stuff that&#039;s really on my mind can&#039;t be discussed in the public domain... but I will share a few interesting Japanese and Chinese tag-related links:

http://taggy.jp/help/whatis.html
http://atpedia.jp/
http://www.maming.com/blog/tags/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could write a pretty good article about tagging, but I am a little busy at the moment. ~ The stuff that&#8217;s really on my mind can&#8217;t be discussed in the public domain&#8230; but I will share a few interesting Japanese and Chinese tag-related links:</p>
<p><a href="http://taggy.jp/help/whatis.html" rel="nofollow">http://taggy.jp/help/whatis.html</a><br />
<a href="http://atpedia.jp/" rel="nofollow">http://atpedia.jp/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.maming.com/blog/tags/" rel="nofollow">http://www.maming.com/blog/tags/</a></p>
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		<title>By: joelamantia</title>
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		<dc:creator>joelamantia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,

Sincere apologies for a cut and paste error that has me calling you by the wrong name; that’s what I get for writing late at night.  Now on to your points.

I don’t think tagging is passe (nice use of the proper accent mark, btw) - but it is no longer in the spotlight.  This is a good thing, for reasons I’ve discussed before.

You’re It! has been quiet for a while now.  Some of the authors on the masthead are focused on other subjects - e.g. Clay Shirky has a new book out.  Some are more closely connected to the subject of tagging, however it is defined, such as Gene Smith, and Thomas Vander Wal, who is writing a book now.  I’ve been working on other areas, so haven’t had anything original to add to the conversation.

Practically, this means the floor / podium / mic regarding tagging really is yours at the moment.

So, from one friendly provocateur to another, what’s on your mind about tagging...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,</p>
<p>Sincere apologies for a cut and paste error that has me calling you by the wrong name; that’s what I get for writing late at night.  Now on to your points.</p>
<p>I don’t think tagging is passe (nice use of the proper accent mark, btw) &#8211; but it is no longer in the spotlight.  This is a good thing, for reasons I’ve discussed before.</p>
<p>You’re It! has been quiet for a while now.  Some of the authors on the masthead are focused on other subjects &#8211; e.g. Clay Shirky has a new book out.  Some are more closely connected to the subject of tagging, however it is defined, such as Gene Smith, and Thomas Vander Wal, who is writing a book now.  I’ve been working on other areas, so haven’t had anything original to add to the conversation.</p>
<p>Practically, this means the floor / podium / mic regarding tagging really is yours at the moment.</p>
<p>So, from one friendly provocateur to another, what’s on your mind about tagging&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Edhouse</title>
		<link>http://tagsonomy.com/index.php/tagging-a-comparison-with-three-characteristics-of-disruptive-innovations/comment-page-1/#comment-50799</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Edhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;these days&quot;...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt; hmmm... Well, firstly, you refer to me as &quot;Ed&quot;. Does that mean we should call you &quot;Lam&quot;?... 

&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;What&#039;s on my mind these days re: tagging&quot;&lt;/i&gt; You ask that question as if &quot;tagging&quot; was,&#039;so passé&#039;. 

I wouldn&#039;t know where to begin answering such a question... Its a subject of considerable interest for me. 

But let me start here... I&#039;ve been watching this blog almost weekly since last September when I posted &#039;comment 1&#039; on September 8th last year - [excerpt below:]

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...I would encourage discussion back to the primary building blocks relevant to the area. Let’s build understanding on a solid shared premise and foundation.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Then on September 29th... I wrote &lt;i&gt;&quot;The silence is deafening&quot;...&lt;/i&gt; (comment 2) Finally in May 2008 Comment 3 (above)is basically saying, like &quot;WTF?&quot; 

i.e. This is meant to be a &quot;Blog on Tagging&quot; and the &#039;Tag Team&quot; (apparently) includes:

    * Alexandra Samuel
    * Christian Crumlish
    * Clay Shirky
    * David Weinberger
    * Don Turnbull
    * Gene Smith
    * Joe Lamantia
    * Jon Lebkowsky
    * Peter Merholz
    * Thomas Vander Wal
    * Timo Hannay

But, its in fact like a Ghost town... It just seems odd to me to start a blog like this, have all these luminaries listed as &quot;team&quot; then let it languish. 

I&#039;m an interested bystander, and now, I guess a friendly provocateur... So, I could turn the question back on &quot;the team&quot;, what&#039;s on your collective minds about &quot;tagging&quot;?

There&#039;s actually a lot going on all around the world, but here, on a site that staked a claim to being something akin to &#039;tag-central&#039;, its a hub of inactivity.

As Seth Godin says: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Ideas that spread, win&quot;&lt;/i&gt;... that simple but insightful statement has some relevance I reckon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;these days&#8221;&#8230;</i><i> hmmm&#8230; Well, firstly, you refer to me as &#8220;Ed&#8221;. Does that mean we should call you &#8220;Lam&#8221;?&#8230; </p>
<p></i><i>&#8220;What&#8217;s on my mind these days re: tagging&#8221;</i> You ask that question as if &#8220;tagging&#8221; was,&#8217;so passé&#8217;. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t know where to begin answering such a question&#8230; Its a subject of considerable interest for me. </p>
<p>But let me start here&#8230; I&#8217;ve been watching this blog almost weekly since last September when I posted &#8216;comment 1&#8242; on September 8th last year &#8211; [excerpt below:]</p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;I would encourage discussion back to the primary building blocks relevant to the area. Let’s build understanding on a solid shared premise and foundation.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>Then on September 29th&#8230; I wrote <i>&#8220;The silence is deafening&#8221;&#8230;</i> (comment 2) Finally in May 2008 Comment 3 (above)is basically saying, like &#8220;WTF?&#8221; </p>
<p>i.e. This is meant to be a &#8220;Blog on Tagging&#8221; and the &#8216;Tag Team&#8221; (apparently) includes:</p>
<p>    * Alexandra Samuel<br />
    * Christian Crumlish<br />
    * Clay Shirky<br />
    * David Weinberger<br />
    * Don Turnbull<br />
    * Gene Smith<br />
    * Joe Lamantia<br />
    * Jon Lebkowsky<br />
    * Peter Merholz<br />
    * Thomas Vander Wal<br />
    * Timo Hannay</p>
<p>But, its in fact like a Ghost town&#8230; It just seems odd to me to start a blog like this, have all these luminaries listed as &#8220;team&#8221; then let it languish. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m an interested bystander, and now, I guess a friendly provocateur&#8230; So, I could turn the question back on &#8220;the team&#8221;, what&#8217;s on your collective minds about &#8220;tagging&#8221;?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s actually a lot going on all around the world, but here, on a site that staked a claim to being something akin to &#8216;tag-central&#8217;, its a hub of inactivity.</p>
<p>As Seth Godin says: <i>&#8220;Ideas that spread, win&#8221;</i>&#8230; that simple but insightful statement has some relevance I reckon.</p>
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		<title>By: joelamantia</title>
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		<dc:creator>joelamantia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you&#039;re still interested in talking / thinking about tagging, Ed. 

Gene Smith recently published a book titled &#039;Tagging: People Powered Metadata For the Web&#039;, and so stands to be interested in the subject.

What&#039;s on your mind these days re: tagging?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you&#8217;re still interested in talking / thinking about tagging, Ed. </p>
<p>Gene Smith recently published a book titled &#8216;Tagging: People Powered Metadata For the Web&#8217;, and so stands to be interested in the subject.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s on your mind these days re: tagging?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Edhouse</title>
		<link>http://tagsonomy.com/index.php/tagging-a-comparison-with-three-characteristics-of-disruptive-innovations/comment-page-1/#comment-50052</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Edhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it with this site?

I put some energy into stimulating discussion here last year, but there has not been a new post since last September! ~ If none of you tagaholics want to drink at the bar any more, then open up the blog for some fresh input and ideas from people with new perspectives to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it with this site?</p>
<p>I put some energy into stimulating discussion here last year, but there has not been a new post since last September! ~ If none of you tagaholics want to drink at the bar any more, then open up the blog for some fresh input and ideas from people with new perspectives to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Edhouse</title>
		<link>http://tagsonomy.com/index.php/tagging-a-comparison-with-three-characteristics-of-disruptive-innovations/comment-page-1/#comment-21265</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Edhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The silence in here is deafening...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The silence in here is deafening&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Edhouse</title>
		<link>http://tagsonomy.com/index.php/tagging-a-comparison-with-three-characteristics-of-disruptive-innovations/comment-page-1/#comment-19275</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Edhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 04:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit of a 2-way conversation, but I guess if we keep going others will contribute.

Thanks Joe for highlighting the &#039;orders of magnitude&#039; idea. Little disruptions don&#039;t change the overall market, or render previous approaches obsolete. Discussions about being &lt;i&gt;&#039;disruptive&#039;&lt;/i&gt; should be about the big changes. So, let&#039;s turn up the lighting in here and focus on some essentials.

a) I think speculation or discussion about whether tagging is a disruptive innovation or not, indicates one thing... that it clearly is not. If it was, it would be obvious, to everyone. 

b) This kind of speculation is also difficult when the actual meaning of the term &lt;i&gt;&#039;tagging&#039;&lt;/i&gt; is so open to interpretation. (tagging has been described on this site as a &lt;i&gt;&#039;technology&#039;&lt;/i&gt;, when a dictionary definition of &#039;technology&#039; clearly fits the phenomenon very poorly)

The quotation from Clayton Christensen about &#039;packet-switching&#039; highlighted by Joe is instructive. I think it is obvious to everyone that packet-switching has been part of a huge disruptive phenomenon, but it did not do so on its own. 

Let&#039;s not jinx it... these things take a while. ~ I would encourage discussion back to the primary building blocks relevant to the area. Let&#039;s build understanding on a solid shared premise and foundation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit of a 2-way conversation, but I guess if we keep going others will contribute.</p>
<p>Thanks Joe for highlighting the &#8216;orders of magnitude&#8217; idea. Little disruptions don&#8217;t change the overall market, or render previous approaches obsolete. Discussions about being <i>&#8216;disruptive&#8217;</i> should be about the big changes. So, let&#8217;s turn up the lighting in here and focus on some essentials.</p>
<p>a) I think speculation or discussion about whether tagging is a disruptive innovation or not, indicates one thing&#8230; that it clearly is not. If it was, it would be obvious, to everyone. </p>
<p>b) This kind of speculation is also difficult when the actual meaning of the term <i>&#8216;tagging&#8217;</i> is so open to interpretation. (tagging has been described on this site as a <i>&#8216;technology&#8217;</i>, when a dictionary definition of &#8216;technology&#8217; clearly fits the phenomenon very poorly)</p>
<p>The quotation from Clayton Christensen about &#8216;packet-switching&#8217; highlighted by Joe is instructive. I think it is obvious to everyone that packet-switching has been part of a huge disruptive phenomenon, but it did not do so on its own. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not jinx it&#8230; these things take a while. ~ I would encourage discussion back to the primary building blocks relevant to the area. Let&#8217;s build understanding on a solid shared premise and foundation.</p>
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